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The /r/hockey Trade Deadline Game - Day 2 Thread

NOTE: This is FAKE HOCKEY. To talk about actual hockey, go to the latest Daily Discussion thread
Trade Deadline Tonight will continue TONIGHT!
The /hockey Trade Deadline Game is back for day 2! Starting today at 8:00 AM MT trading is officially open again. Trading will run until Thursday, January 30th at 6:00 PM MT.
You are not late! You can still sign up at http://www.tdgdb.com
When you are traded, change your flair on hockey-related subreddits and spend the week from January 31st through February 7th cheering for your new team.
Here are this year's reporters, the people who will make things up break news of trade negotiations:
But remember

NO TRADE IS OFFICIAL UNTIL POSTED IN THIS THREAD!

It's not too late to sign up to be a player The sign-up form is still active and will remain open until Wednesday night. You can find that here
For TDG-related shenanigans, go here [WARNING: some NSFW Language]
Happy trading!
coloradoavalanche receives xelrano from detroitredwings
detroitredwings receives illwill18 from coloradoavalanche
Detroit receives a 3 of the Rocky Mountains, Breckenridge Brewery.
Colorado receives Windsor Ontario.
coloradoavalanche receives Muckerofbin from edmontonoilers
coloradoavalanche receives SCwinningJultz from edmontonoilers
edmontonoilers receives asswaffle420 from coloradoavalanche
edmontonoilers receives CloutWaffle from coloradoavalanche
coloradoavalanche receive a used oil derrick, straight from the prairies.
canucks receives TheOlDickTwister from detroitredwings
canucks receives SevenStringGod from detroitredwings
detroitredwings receives JordanTheLobster from canucks
detroitredwings receives BlueLegs32 from canucks
Detroit receives Storm Brewery.
Vancouver receives the naming rights to Lake Superior
predators receives tonuch4963 from detroitredwings
detroitredwings receives TRed7894 from predators
Detroit receives Yazoo Brewery, and a choked on peanut.
Nashville receives the helmet from Robocop.
penguins receives thewinterzodiac from edmontonoilers
penguins receives nextfanatic from edmontonoilers
edmontonoilers receives DontPanic_4242 from penguins
edmontonoilers receives shirleyxx from penguins
penguins receive a barrel of the finest Albertan oil.
penguins receives StonedArcticPenguin from rangers
rangers receives ArchaicTriad from penguins
Pittsburgh Cheesesteak has been removed from the menu from Parmanti Bro's
anaheimducks receives Efficient-Sentence from winnipegjets
anaheimducks receives ItsaMe_Fish from winnipegjets
winnipegjets receives dunkan799 from anaheimducks
anaheimducks Front Office will have food delivered to the Front Office of Winnipegjets
stlouisblues receives otterHooligan from flyers
stlouisblues receives DelcoScum from flyers
stlouisblues receives agswanlek from flyers
flyers receives OtterInAustin from stlouisblues
flyers receives lawnicus18 from stlouisblues
flyers receives Rhymes_withOrange from stlouisblues
stlouisblues receives The Jacks NYB from Philadelphia in exchange for one hour alone with the Stanley Cup for Gritty.
rangers receives Asscheese124 from floridapanthers
rangers receives BearHands00 from floridapanthers
rangers receives MiamiDolphinsFan13 from floridapanthers
floridapanthers receives MentalCorruption from rangers
The New York Rangers also receive naming rights to the city of Miami, renaming it New Brooklyn, and naming rights to the Florida Keys, renaming them the Brooklyn Keys
flyers receives leadorlead from bluejackets
bluejackets receives puckcrisis11 from flyers
To bluejackets - a supply of Scrapple
To flyers - a gift card to La Crema in Hamilton
bluejackets receives NorthHighBears from coloradoavalanche
bluejackets receives RaiderGoalie from coloradoavalanche
bluejackets receives FuzzyTheKiller from coloradoavalanche
coloradoavalanche receives Highlander253 from bluejackets
coloradoavalanche receives HockeyHydralisk from bluejackets
Columbus Blue Jackets to receive a case of Marylands finest rot gut, DuClaw Brewery's Sweet Baby Jesus Chocolate Peanut Butter Porter.
Colorado Avalanche to receive assurances that HockeyHydralisk will shitpost memes at least twice, spending more than ten minutes in GIMP and not just making text on a white background.
detroitredwings receives docksmur from bluejackets
detroitredwings receives Demonox01 from bluejackets
bluejackets receives TheFlanderer from detroitredwings
bluejackets receives InSwedenWeTrust from detroitredwings
bluejackets may dress the Spirit of Detroit in a Blue Jackets jersey for one week
detroitredwings receives the Columbus Brewing Company
flyers receives Sulfoniclol from coloradoavalanche
flyers receives doodlescout from coloradoavalanche
coloradoavalanche receives TheGlaceon78 from flyers
coloradoavalanche receives wh1zzer from flyers
Colorado Avalanche to receive the township of Cherry Hill, NJ.
canes receives sneakytinkerspirits from canes
VGK receives a single In-n-Out fry. Not even animal style. Plain.
devils receives OhneBremse_OhneLicht from sanjosesharks
sanjosesharks receives woodbot96 from devils
sanjosesharks receives SnowyPuzzle from devils
sanjosesharks receives HopelessEsq from devils
sanjosesharks receives CTLepore from devils
hawks receives themagicman1343 from detroitredwings
detroitredwings receives Xenofon713 from hawks
detroitredwings receives Goose Island Brewery, but will still distribute to Chicago. hawks gets to rename 8 mile, 88 mile and a picture of Patrick Kane will be put on the sign.
hawks receives hockeyenthusiast from sanjosesharks
sanjosesharks receives NimihseeL from hawks
Chicago will send some cold weather to the Bay Area. The Sharks will use this to host the Blackhawks in the Winter Classic.
canes receives StephDoesntCamp from flyers
flyers receives SheepLovesFinns from canes
flyers receives SarahCiv from canes
flyers receives IAMA_Dumba55_Fan from canes
canes receives the Rocky statue and promises to teach Steph how to properly appreciate Rod the Bod
dallasstars receives kethryvis from sanjosesharks
sanjosesharks receives talkinmyface from dallasstars
sanjosesharks receives doihavetowearabra from dallasstars
Sharks receive three bags of hockey pucks.
detroitredwings receives OcelotWolf from sanjosesharks
sanjosesharks receives swim846 from detroitredwings
sanjosesharks receives GreatCanadian_ from detroitredwings
sanjosesharks receives ts1234666 from detroitredwings
Detroit receives ownership of the Hapas Brewing Company.
newyorkislanders receives Dildo_Baggins_6969 from hawks
newyorkislanders receives bwhyte1123 from hawks
hawks receives Deathwing_Dragonlord from newyorkislanders
hawks receives commsmatt from newyorkislanders
Isles to provide Hawks with Brooklyn pie.
Hawks to provide Isles with deep dish pizza.
detroitredwings receives CutLinkOfficial from rangers
rangers receives nik_mkay from detroitredwings
/detroitredwings get Genesee Brewing Company.
/rangers get to rename Dayton, MI to New New York, MI
devils receives osoblanco234 from goldenknights
devils receives Bigcheecho from goldenknights
devils receives rubix08 from goldenknights
devils receives mmowry98 from goldenknights
devils receives CapHillFlash from goldenknights
goldenknights receives JSav7 from devils
goldenknights receives timotomat0 from devils
goldenknights receives Pastatrees from devils
goldenknights receives Palmsfan21 from devils
goldenknights receives faze_chair from devils
New Jersey Devils acquire Bryce Harper's tears
Vegas Golden Knights acquire a Nikita Gusev Jersey
devils receives Hobpobkibblebob from tampabaylightning
tampabaylightning receives HeadHighSauce26 from devils
tampabaylightning receives diego-fuego from devils
TB receives: Louis Domingue NJ receives: some real Florida beach sand and a 12 pack of a Tampa Bay beer to be named later
canes receives Awab25 from hawks
hawks receives shadownet97 from canes
Canes will receive 1 pie from Pequod's.
leafs receives Cynova055 from bluejackets
bluejackets receives haIifax from leafs
To leafs - a signed LeBron James poster
To bluejackets - a Stan Rogers vinyl
coloradoavalanche receives ksheiny from newyorkislanders
coloradoavalanche receives zxpzflik from newyorkislanders
coloradoavalanche receives QuantumDrake from newyorkislanders
newyorkislanders receives littleneerd from coloradoavalanche
newyorkislanders receives bluestooge from coloradoavalanche
newyorkislanders receives usiakcameron from coloradoavalanche
/ColoradoAvalanche receive a cup holder stolen from the Barclays center
both teams sign a joint statement saying the Barclays Center sucks for hockey
rangers receives _RocketGrunt_ from coloradoavalanche
rangers receives stormylullabye from coloradoavalanche
rangers receives Thebush121 from coloradoavalanche
rangers receives taylorrae33 from coloradoavalanche
rangers receives camco105 from coloradoavalanche
coloradoavalanche receives MEGAMATTEOMAN from rangers
coloradoavalanche receives Robtachi from rangers
New York Rangers to receive New Mountain York.
detroitredwings receives guccigatana from newyorkislanders
newyorkislanders receives DeadWithMyFriends from detroitredwings
/NewYorkIslanders receive a girder from the old Joe Louis Arena
/DetroitRedWings receive the Southern Tier Brewing Company
tampabaylightning receives MooseKingdom from leafs
stlouisblues receives Ezflow from tampabaylightning
stlouisblues receives Bryce_Dead19 from tampabaylightning
stlouisblues receives Euroranger from stlouisblues
leafs receives Jimmers1231 from stlouisblues
leafs receives Bcakd5 from stlouisblues
bluejackets receives dylanr18 from bluejackets
bluejackets receives TheDanAplan from bluejackets
stlouisblues receives thecbjfan from bluejackets
leafs receives an official expression of gratitude from stlouisblues for Toronto's release of Tyler Bozak
hawks receives OleMissGoalie37 from coloradoavalanche
hawks receives HeelJopy from coloradoavalanche
hawks receives silentrenegade8 from coloradoavalanche
coloradoavalanche receives Bragisson from hawks
Chicago to receive Rhein Haus.
stlouisblues receives wingsfan64 from detroitredwings
detroitredwings receives ContrastingWords from stlouisblues
/detroitredwings receive 2 clydesdales
/stlouisblues receive 2 Fiats.
flyers receives WhoaItsAFactorial from losangeleskings
losangeleskings receives SplendaMan from flyers
losangeleskings receives crafbicycle from flyers
flyers receives a bag of Mike Richards finest nose candy
losangeleskings receives Gritty's dealer's phone number
losangeleskings receives kenlane from newyorkislanders
losangeleskings receives auniqueusername1001 from newyorkislanders
newyorkislanders receives Branzilla91 from losangeleskings
newyorkislanders receives WhyAreYouGey from losangeleskings
newyorkislanders receives trippy2219 from losangeleskings
/NewYorkIslanders receive a Pau Gasol jersey
/LosAngelesKings receive a jug of that good Brooklyn Water
flyers receives RealmoftheRedWiings from detroitredwings
flyers receives RedWingFan5 from detroitredwings
detroitredwings receives carp_boy from flyers
detroitredwings receives KFC_Gaming from flyers
/detroitredwings receive Yuengling Brewery
/flyers receive otters Kalee and Sparky from the Detroit Zoo
coyotes receives JimmyRadRad from tampabaylightning
coyotes receives sdubz11 from tampabaylightning
coyotes receives vinnyv91 from tampabaylightning
coyotes receives PinHill from tampabaylightning
tampabaylightning receives bonzaijoe from coyotes
TB receives: Some desert sand from Arizona + 1 live coyote
ARI receives: Some beach sand from Florida
predators receives m4xdc from coloradoavalanche
coloradoavalanche receives Forny008 from predators
Colorado Avalanche to receive Carrie "Carrie Underwood" Fisher at one home game.
Nashville Predators to receive two free Chevrolet Avalanches to smash as they see fit during the Stanley Cup Playoffs.
stlouisblues receives christinaann6 from penguins
penguins receives a promise that u/professorwhat won't make another edgy joke on stream
losangeleskings receives PhelpsTheory from canes
losangeleskings receives AStelthyNinja from canes
canes receives LABoston from losangeleskings
In addition, CAR receives a dozen Randy's donuts and a taco truck. LAK receives one storm surge wavier.
coloradoavalanche receives YouGot2BeKiddingMe from tampabaylightning
tampabaylightning receives feedfatso1607 from coloradoavalanche
tampabaylightning receives Leumas_lheir from coloradoavalanche
tampabaylightning receives putinsukraine from coloradoavalanche
tampabaylightning receives stubborn11 from coloradoavalanche
COL receives: A jar of lightning that can be controlled and used to kill enemies
TB receives: An avalanche machine that trigger an avalanche wherever I want, once
bluejackets receives Something_319 from stlouisblues
bluejackets receives Euroranger from stlouisblues
stlouisblues receives TheDanAplan from bluejackets
stlouisblues receives dylanr18 from bluejackets
stlouisblues receives the entire The Drew Carey Show on Blu-Ray.
bluejackets receive the body of General William T. Sherman. At last reunited with Grant, acquired in an earlier trade, Ohio's great God-Kings shall be reinterred beneath Nationwide Arena, henceforth to watch over this city, this state, and this hockey team in eternal glory.
sabres receives TheConeOfShame805 from penguins
penguins receives NumberJ5 from sabres
sabres receives the Monongahela River and a grilled cheese sandwhich that the Penguins promise is actually a Philly cheesesteak
penguins also gives NumberJ5 his own personal bidet
goldenknights receives needuhlife19 from detroitredwings
goldenknights receives D3troiit from detroitredwings
detroitredwings receives cookbacondrunknaked from goldenknights
/detroitredwings receive Ellis Island Hotel Casino & Brewery.
/goldenknights receive Tom Selleck's mustache
bluejackets receives Sh1eldbearer from detroitredwings
goldenknights receives RCX42 from bluejackets
Vegas acquires some Lake Effect from Columbus to help pond hockey in the desert
tampabaylightning receives bay_sports from sanjosesharks
tampabaylightning receives DontSayNoToPills from sanjosesharks
sanjosesharks receives bonzaijoe from tampabaylightning
sanjosesharks receives XanoJester from tampabaylightning
devils receives Troub313 from detroitredwings
detroitredwings receives Flowseidon9 from devils
detroitredwings receives corso923 from devils
/detroitredwings receive the Anheuser-Busch facility located in Newark.
sanjosesharks receives adam3vergreen from bluejackets
bluejackets receives sjs48 from sanjosesharks
bluejackets receives eggs-dee123 from sanjosesharks
caps receives brycer16 from flyers
caps receives AgelessWonder67 from flyers
caps receives FlackBox from flyers
flyers receives koalabear9301 from caps
flyers receives NotShibs from caps
flyers receives _Ghost8_ from caps
Philadelphia sends Jeff Francoeur to DC.
habs receives MOLightningBro from tampabaylightning
habs receives RandomBoltsFan from tampabaylightning
tampabaylightning receives Davel_Patsyuk from habs
tampabaylightning receives christiv7 from habs
tampabaylightning receives Lander-V from habs
MTL receives: A meeting with the Yakuza
TB receives: The best poutine Quebec has to offer
habs receives spyingformontreal from detroitredwings
detroitredwings receives Notopdelta from habs
/detroitredwings receive Molson Coors Brewing Company.
/Habs receive an unreleased Eminem mixtape
devils receives hnglmkrnglbrry from bluejackets
bluejackets receives summervacationtoHoth from devils
bluejackets receives Danny_Devitos_Bitch from devils
bluejackets receives kingofthediamond from devils
bluejackets receives 4Bars_BlackFlag from devils
bluejackets receives Cyrus_Voltaire from devils
bluejackets receives Future Considerations and Snookie from devils
bluejackets acknowledges and endorses the Devils' famous Christmas Whites as the best in the Tri-State Area.
habs receives Angry_Walnut from goldenknights
goldenknights receives Instantcurry from habs
goldenknights receives killerb54 from habs
Vegas acquires Paccioretty's C
Montreal acquires Paccioretty's A
flyers receives JakeTheSnake0709 from edmontonoilers
edmontonoilers receives NippleDickPussyBhole from flyers
flyers receives the Walterdale Bridge EdmontonOilers receive the opportunity to lick the Liberty Bell
caps receives Xenofon713 from detroitredwings
detroitredwings receives NKilmer6 from caps
/detroitredwings receive a bag of prison booze from The Central Detention Facility
sanjosesharks receives Softestpoop from edmontonoilers
edmontonoilers receives infamousgenitals from sanjosesharks
edmontonoilers receives thegreatmomo14 from sanjosesharks
penguins receives ProjectPsion from bluejackets
penguins receives TheStigofKentucky from bluejackets
penguins receives Zebra_dan from bluejackets
bluejackets receives PenguinPride87 from penguins
bluejackets receives knucklepuck17 from penguins
bluejackets admits the Pirates will win another title before the Browns will
caps receives thatgoodmojo from detroitredwings
detroitredwings receives Xenofon713 from caps
/detroitredwings will be holding a press conference soon to honor Xenofon713 for coming back home...for good this time.
flyers receives safetide from losangeleskings
losangeleskings receives cdl5060 from flyers
flyers also receives a meeting with Snoop Dogg to explain what otters are to him
sanjosesharks receives plantedgreenfern from caps
sanjosesharks receives Roust_McGoust from caps
sanjosesharks receives SaxIsMyAxe1_ from caps
sanjosesharks receives Fireball827 from caps
sanjosesharks receives hokierange from caps
caps receives Sainthops from sanjosesharks
caps receives pachicola from sanjosesharks
caps receives bunnymcfoo from sanjosesharks
caps receives SurprisedCarlos from sanjosesharks
winnipegjets receives NarcoticTurkey from habs
habs receives finnishjetter from winnipegjets
Habs receive protection from finnishjetter sabotaging our hockey survivor plans for 2020
winnipegjets receives Spitfyre434 from sanjosesharks
winnipegjets receives lackingspoon from sanjosesharks
sanjosesharks receives TrueNorthStrong1898 from winnipegjets
The Winnipeg Jets officially acknowledge that Northern California is better than Southern California.
winnipegjets receives Fixmy59bug from goldenknights
winnipegjets receives Hektorpascal from goldenknights
goldenknights receives biga204 from winnipegjets
goldenknights receives Kudgar from winnipegjets
stlouisblues receives Whydoesthisexist15 from canes
stlouisblues receives gene_scallop from canes
stlouisblues receives waltstrika from canes
stlouisblues receives canesfan556 from canes
stlouisblues receives fogger794 from canes
canes receives PM_Me_Things_Yo_Like from stlouisblues
canes receives TechDawg20 from stlouisblues
canes receives JazzPolice13 from stlouisblues
canes receives M_Shepard_89 from stlouisblues
canes receives jsmu2016 from stlouisblues
canes receives a buffet tray of T-Ravs, stlouisblues receives the Section 328 Podcast.
canucks receives DeathToHeretics from caps
hawks receives ainzooalg0wn from caps
caps receives thelaineranger from canucks
hawks receives jlennox__ from canucks
caps receives younggun92 from hawks
caps receives jamaicancovfefe from hawks
To Chicago: A pizza from We The Pizza (Toppings to be decided at a later date)
To DeathToHeretics: A Chicago Dog and Chicago Deep Dish Pizza to be taken with him to Vancouver
canucks receives ChronicBitRot from hawks
canucks receives ThirdTimesAnAlt from hawks
canucks receives SpeedyDolphin42 from hawks
hawks receives mephnick from canucks
winnipegjets receives darnfox from detroitredwings
winnipegjets receives akschreibs from detroitredwings
detroitredwings receives PuckTheFreds from winnipegjets
/detroitredwings receive Half Pints Brewing Co.
/winnipegjets receive lockers from Joe Louis Arena, to be used as the overhead compartments
canucks receives jmorga33 from bluejackets
bluejackets receives offline_dude19 from canucks
canucks receives a bag of pucks from bluejackets , and promises to take them down to Seattle and use them to break Starbucks windows
losangeleskings receives sweetstrife from bluejackets
bluejackets receives Mootux from losangeleskings
bluejackets receives im_turning_into_moss from losangeleskings
bluejackets receives Bhelliom from losangeleskings
bluejackets receives Boii1209 from losangeleskings
bluejackets receives WorldRallyBlues from losangeleskings
The Rainbow Bar and Grill moved to Columbus. The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame moved to Los Angeles. Harvey Weinstein lifetime banned from entering Ohio.
/sabres receives Mercpool87 from /penguins
/sabres receives DL757 from /penguins
/sabres receives armagev17 from /penguins
/penguins receives shadowzeak from /sabres
/penguins receives Uncle_Gazpacho from /sabres
penguins receives the city of Buffalo, and the Buffalo Bisons u/armagev17 receives a full NTC
hawks receives spicy-succ from newyorkislanders
hawks receives PracticallyCanadian7 from newyorkislanders
newyorkislanders receives IAmQueensBlvd31 from hawks
/NewYorkIslanders receive courtiebabe420's old Jay Cutler jersey
/Hawks receive TheBossJarhead's old John Tavares jersey
penguins receives cgreen727 from coyotes
coyotes receives BoBandy35 from penguins
coyotes receives TheStigofKentucky from penguins
coyotes receives brendan0305 from penguins
coyotes get Phil Kessel's old house for u/bonzaijoe
penguins get an old Phil Kessel hotdog wrapper for u/armagev17
coloradoavalanche receives Freaaak55 from sanjosesharks
sanjosesharks receives SlipperyInNet from coloradoavalanche
goldenknights receives AnAngryAnimal from wildhockey
goldenknights receives CommanderCorndog from wildhockey
wildhockey receives moosepile from goldenknights
Minnesota sends Mild hot sauce to Vegas. Vegas issues a written apology for having done it to GMCF so hard in the expansion draft
flyers receives pelliffe11 from devils
devils receives MrMeSeeds from flyers
Flyers also receive Apple Watch to log "fitness"
canucks receives thronelol from caps
canucks receives mataleon07 from caps
canucks receives camelCaseNoob from caps
caps receives IGotThisFromEbay from canucks
caps receives Crazymoney74 from canucks
caps receives spacppl from canucks
caps receives flyingsub from canucks
caps receives BraqAttack from canucks
bluejackets receives FewWatermelonlesson7 from wildhockey
wildhockey receives AntiPrince from bluejackets
Minnesota admits that they are not, in fact, Canadian. The Blue Jackets admit that the Cleveland Indians ownership is dumb and stupid.
goldenknights receives svartkonst from dallasstars
goldenknights receives scoutcjustice from dallasstars
goldenknights receives FuckItHaveAnUpvote from dallasstars
dallasstars receives Sumdood88 from goldenknights
And a promise to get Drokeep out of Philly
detroitredwings receives quantumking_ from wildhockey
detroitredwings receives Zushenko from wildhockey
wildhockey receives Detonation from detroitredwings
DET acquires: Burning Brothers Brewery
MIN acquires: 5 lbs of mackinac fudge
sabres receives TurtleWithATail from canucks
sabres receives MirandaGemini from canucks
canucks receives KEWLCactus from sabres
Vancouver receives both the American and Canadian sides of Niagara Falls.
Buffalo receives 2000 lbs of salmon (wild) and the rights to Seattle as a rival.
losangeleskings receives wyattgbert from detroitredwings
detroitredwings receives Arelfel from losangeleskings
/detroitredwings receive Angel City Brewery
/losangeleskings receive a random parking lot attendant
penguins receives Dragarien from detroitredwings
penguins receives drock21023 from detroitredwings
detroitredwings receives byfugWIN from penguins
/detroitredwings receive Croakers Brewing
/penguins receive an old concession stand from Joe Louis Arena
detroitredwings receives Gamogi from edmontonoilers
detroitredwings receives LLbnjt99 from edmontonoilers
detroitredwings receives rdayrien from edmontonoilers
detroitredwings receives saltydingus from edmontonoilers
edmontonoilers receives Ohgodwhatisthisidont from detroitredwings
edmontonoilers receives iFuktUrMom from detroitredwings
edmontonoilers receives BylerTertuzzi from detroitredwings
detroitredwings receives the Alley Kat Brewing Company.
habs receives NontransferableApe from bluejackets
bluejackets receives Toaster_Coaster from habs
bluejackets receives gryff_ from habs
hawks receives BoltsGoalieGirl from tampabaylightning
hawks receives DoinWhale from tampabaylightning
hawks receives xW52 from tampabaylightning
hawks receives KatWantsToBattle from tampabaylightning
hawks receives J_Mark13 from tampabaylightning
tampabaylightning receives GRAIN_DIV_20 from hawks
tampabaylightning receives drmatt19 from hawks
tampabaylightning receives freezend from hawks
tampabaylightning receives burtsreynoldswrap from hawks
tampabaylightning receives keister_TM from hawks
TB receives: The best Chicago deep dish pizza for the staff + a shipment of Old Style
CHI receives: The best Cuban subs for the staff + a shipment of Yuengling
dallasstars receives Drokeep from flyers
flyers receives Sumdood88 from dallasstars
goldenknights agrees to renounce all present and future claims to Bryce Harper
dallasstars recieves Chance the Gila Monster from Vegas
tampabaylightning receives CluelessNuggetOfGold from detroitredwings
tampabaylightning receives canbehazardous from detroitredwings
tampabaylightning receives DarkRitNighthawk from detroitredwings
tampabaylightning receives SlenderSpenser from detroitredwings
tampabaylightning receives Datsyuk1998 from detroitredwings
detroitredwings receives westofvenus from tampabaylightning
detroitredwings receives SuperSniper4 from tampabaylightning
detroitredwings receives deeyaz from tampabaylightning
/detroitredwings receives Cigar City Brewing
/tampabaylightning receies a C8 Corvette in blue and a case of Vernors
goldenknights receives obelisk29 from tampabaylightning
goldenknights receives cm17cm17 from tampabaylightning
goldenknights receives MrTubzy from tampabaylightning
goldenknights receives justincase_2008 from tampabaylightning
goldenknights receives lorenzovonmaterhorn from tampabaylightning
tampabaylightning receives GhostlyPixel from goldenknights
tampabaylightning receives Hollywood_Zro from goldenknights
tampabaylightning receives WoomyNgyes from goldenknights
tampabaylightning receives Byers346 from goldenknights
tampabaylightning receives KelaSaar from goldenknights
TB receives: Tickets to a Vegas show to be named later
VGK receives: Future Considerations
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The Tale of The North Stars.

The North Stars, you all know what happened, Norm Green moves the team to Dallas, because he was a pervert. Well there was a lot more that went into them moving, than simply just “Norm’s wife told him to move the team or else”.
March 11, 1965, NHL President Clarence Campbell announces the NHL will expand to twelve teams, from six. With that the era of the Original Six, the “Original Six” weren’t even that, they were just six teams that managed to survive throughout a chaotic league. A group led by, Walter Bush, Jr., Robert Ridder, and John Driscoll, sought to bring the NHL to the Twin Cities, in Minnesota. The NHL awarded this group one of the six new franchises, with the other five going to Oakland(Seals), Pittsburgh(Penguins), St Louis(Blues), Philadelphia(Flyers) and Los Angeles(Kings). The as of yet unnamed franchise held a naming contest, as you typically do with a new team and the name “North Stars” was selected, which was derived from the states motto "L'Étoile du Nord" or Star of the North. Work quickly began on their new arena in Bloomington, with the arena eventually being named “The Metropolitan Sports Center.”
Honestly? There’s not much chaotic about the early North Stars, unlike the Blues who had to deal with the NHL’s bullshit(Norris Jr and his merry band of fools), or the Seals who were a mess to begin with, the North Stars were...stable. Game 1 of their first season was an entertaining one, playing against fellow expansion team, the St Louis Blues, they tied in their first game, with Bill Masterson scoring the first goal in franchise history. It was an exciting time to be a hockey fan. All was not well though, on January 13, 1968, the North Stars faced the California Seals, in what would be Masterson’s final game.
Masterson was skating the puck across the Blue Line, his skates got tangled in the stick of Larry Cahan or Ron Harris(it’s unknown as to which, but they were both close to him), Masterson lost his balance, pitching forward, he didn’t see the defendor coming up on him, who delivered a clean check to him, knocking him backwards. Masterson was not wearing a helmet(as was normal), as he smacked his head on the ice, going unconscious instantly. Masterson never recovered, he died a few days later. Teammate André Boudrias described the hit "It sounded like a baseball bat hitting a ball.” Boudrias helped the team trainer onto the ice, the team doctor joining them soon after. They carried Masterson off on a stretcher and into an ambulance to Fairview Southdale hospital, seven miles away. "His eyes were gray at the time -- it was like a horror picture," Boudrias says. "I knew he was done." Doctors did what they could, treating him with steroids and diuretics, but the swelling in his brain was too swift and severe. His Wife and Parents, who had flown in from Winnipeg to watch him play, had made the decision to remove Bill from life support.
Hours later, at 1:55AM, Bill Masterton was pronounced dead at the age of 29, he was survived by his wife Carol. Unfortunately this didn’t do much to make the NHL decide to make helmets mandatory, not for another decade when they finally made helmets mandatory. However this did spark a change among players, as more began to adopt helmets. Players before this had worn helmets, but most chose not to for “Vanity Reasons”(To quote Brett Hull). Bruins player Ted Green had become the first Bruin to wear a helmet, since Eddie Shore. Shore had suffered major head injuries as a result of a massive hit he laid onto Ace Bailey, Shore in turn had his head hit the ice in retaliation. Doctors described Masterton’s death as the result of “a massive brain injury”. After news of Masterton’s death spread to the team, the North Stars lost their next six, but also retired his Jersey. Masterson’s death opened many eyes to the realization that helmets were needed in a fast moving game such a hockey. Following his death, hockey writers announced the creation of the “Bill Masterton Trophy”, to be given annually to the player who best exemplifies the qualities of perseverance, sportsmanship and dedication to hockey. Basically the player who best overcame adversity for that season, such as Bobby Clarke, who overcame Diabetes to play in the NHL.
The North Stars finished fourth in the West Division(the one with all the expansion teams), in their first playoff run, they beat the Kings, advancing to the West Finals, where they lost to the Blues in a Game 7, in double overtime. The Blues proceeded to get swept by the Canadiens, in what becomes a recurring theme for the next 2 finals, Original Six sweeping the expansion Blues. This is by no means because the Blues were awful, it was because the odds were stacked against them and the rest of the “New Six”. They weren’t given great players and the GMs had no idea what they were doing, not to mention they were given their own division so the Original Six had a punching bag. Even in a “new era” the NHL was awful. The next few years were mostly uneventful for the North Stars, missing the playoffs once, but only posting one winning season in their first four seasons, it wasn’t looking great. They were better than their WHA Rivals, who folded four seasons in, but not by much. By ‘78 attendance had fallen so sharply that there were fears that they would fold due to how bad things were, they’d posted 2 whole winning seasons and out of the last six seasons, making the playoffs only once, it didn’t look good. But there was a worse team, the Cleveland Barons, formerly the Oakland / California Seals, who relocated to Cleveland due to a new arena being out of the question and the minority owners(George and Gordon Gund) convincing the majority owner Melvin Swig(wanted to move them to San Francisco, more on this at the end) to move the team to Cleveland. The Barons weren’t much better and then this happened.
Essentially the wealthy owners of the Barons, George(III) and Gordon Gund, would become the new owners of the North Stars, merging them with the Barons. The Barons would in turn merge with the North Stars, giving them the good parts of the team. The North Stars would not relocate, they would keep their name, logo, color, everything, but would be moved to the Adams Division, since now that division would be down to three teams. Most notable of the players the North Stars would get were Goaltender Gilles Meloche and forwards Al MacAdam and Mike Fidler. During the draft that year they had drafted future Calder winner, Bobby Smith, who helped to bolster an actually decent looking team now. They weren’t cup favorites, but they were an improved team, this merger is what saved the North Stars from folding and making the NHL’s expansion look like even worse of a joke. The season that followed was nothing short of incredible, suddenly the North Stars looked like a real team, everyone looked to be firing on all cylinders, leading to a historic game:
The following season proved to be an improvement over the last, with them finishing only a point lower than the previous year, but their playoff run was magical. The North Stars got through the Bruins, Sabres and finally the Flames, to reach the Cup Final. ...Where they promptly got beat 4-1, but it didn’t matter, because by all accounts the North Stars were doing much better now, people paid attention to them, the building was usually full. The next few seasons were the same, despite one early round exit, they made it to the Conference Finals, once more with two Round 1 exits and Round 2 exit. That was it for the Cinderella story of the North Stars though, 85-86 was the final time the North Stars would have a winning season. The 80’s were almost over and attendance was..dropping, despite everything, the North Stars were in trouble. They finished 87-88, just barely out of the playoffs, but allowed them to draft one of the greatest American-Born Players, of all time. Mike Modano.
Drafting Modano was great, but ownership kept threatening to move the team to San Francisco, the Gunds' didn’t exactly like Minnesota and with the fans not showing up, relocation become a threat, here you have a team that was close to folding just a decade ago, back to having trouble and it doesn’t look good on the NHL, despite them vetoing any attempts by the Gund’s to move the team. The NHL eventually gave into the Gund’s threats to move the team to San Francisco. This is where it becomes complicated.
Enter Norm Greed: Norm Green, former minority owner of the Flames, had joined Baldwin’s ownership group and purchased a 51% stake in the team. Green then purchased Baldwin’s stake in the team, gaining more than 75% control of the North Stars. He then went and bought Belzberg's share in October of 1990, giving him all the power he wanted, making him the owner of the team.
The 91 season was...odd for the North Stars. They finished with a losing record(as was the norm at this point), but had barely made the playoffs. This is where it gets weirder, they went on a cup run, beating two of the NHL’s best teams in the Blackhawks and Blues, steamrolling through the defending champions in the Oilers, finally facing off against Lemieux’s Penguins, who had just acquired Ron Francis, not too long ago. This Final didn’t go their way, just like the last one, but they fought hard in it, losing 4 games to 2. That was all she wrote for the North Stars though.
It was a strange offseason, in what could be called foreshadowing the North Stars got new uniforms. Gone were the Green uniforms and Stars on the pants, replaced with a simple Black and Green jersey, the new logo ditching the “North Stars” for just “Stars” The uniforms would literally just be the one’s later used in Dallas for most of the 90’s with minor changes. New uniforms weren’t it though, behind the scenes it was chaos. Green was trying to move the team to LA, to play in the still being built Honda Center(Yes, that one), where they would become the “L.A. Stars”. As Disney was in the middle of negotiations(the 90’s were fucking weird) to place a team there(they also owned the Angels), the North Stars would instead move to Dallas, Texas.
Dallas, Texas. In 1992 Greed announced the North Stars would move to Reunion Arena, in the heart of Dallas, Texas, becoming the Dallas Stars. Why did this happen? Variety of reasons really. Green was a massive pervert and couldn’t keep his hands to himself, or his junk in pants, so he faced a sexual harassment lawsuit, with his wife threatening to leave him, if he didn’t move the team. Why couldn’t they just play at Target Center, with the Timberwolves? Target was Coca-Cola, while the Stars advertised with Pepsi, which created issue. Issue I’m sure could have been solved, but hey, what do I know? Another reason was the dwindling attendance, it has been an issue for the past few years(minus the cup run), combine that with a team who can’t put together a winning season and people just weren’t having it. The on-ice product wasn’t good and they had no interest.
Another factor involved the Gunds’. Yes, they were out of the picture, but their stink still lingered. The Gunds’ had tried to build a shopping near the Met Center, after demolishing Met Stadium(Twins and Vikings played there), well it was looking like they would get their wish...until they didn’t. Instead the Ghermezian brothers, got the land and built The Mall of America. The Gunds’ had felt the Metro Sports Commission had cheated them over this and in turn demanded the MSC renovate the Met Center to the tune of $15 Million, adding close to 40 suites and expanding the concourse. None of that happened, the MSC laughed in their faces and told them to go away. However, North Stars GM Lou Nanne had been the one to actually do something. He persuaded the MSC to instead spend $3.5 Million and add only 20 suites.
The Gunds’ were incredibly frustrated with their situation in Minnesota. And fans were too. Years of failed drafts, trades, no talent and bad seasons, left many fans thinking ownership only cared about money. ...Which they did. Some even called them “No Stars”, because of how true it was, the North Stars had no stars, for most of the Gund era. With the Target Center being built, the Gunds’ took this as a sign, it was time to demand the MSC renovate the Met again, asking for money to do so, with the MSC again, laughing in their faces. It just so happened, Art Savage(friend of the Gunds’) was trying to get a team in San Francisco, so they decided to join forces and move the North Stars to San Francisco.
It wasn’t that easy though. GM Lou Nanne(voice of reason somehow) warned them the NHL wouldn’t allow it, but they went to the Board of Governors to get permission to move. Bill Wirtz was head of the BoG and pretty much denied them on the spot, but granted them a team in San Jose on the condition they sell the North Stars, to an owner who would keep them in Minnesota(Ahahaha). This left the Gunds’ split as George was fine with selling, but Gordon felt that they worked too hard to just sell now(what work did they do? The world may never know!). Eventually they did sell to the aforementioned group involving Norm Green however and they got their team in San Jose.
Norm and the sexual harassment allegations against him. Norm was being sued by some of his former secretaries for sexual harassment, he’d look down their blouses, and demand they kiss him, he was a creep in every way possible. His wife demanded he * move the team, to get rid of mounting media pressure on them, due to the aforementioned lawsuit. Norm made attempts to keep the North Stars in Minnesota, but as the MSC had just finished building the Target Center, they weren’t about to build another arena. The Target Center deal fell through, as did a deal that would link the Met Center to the Mall of America, via Skyway and would include a casino that Green would own. That proposal was shot down because it was almost the same cost as a new arena, that the MSC refused to pay for. He renovated the Met with his own money during his short tenure as North Stars Owner, but that was about it. Apparently it was thanks to former Cowboys Quarterback Roger Staubach that the Stars moved to Dallas, as he had convinced Green, Dallas was the perfect market for hockey.
The fans were as you can imagine angry. Bringing “Norm Sucks” signs and chanting that during games, even calling him “Norm Greed”(Accurate really). It was a horrible time to be a North Stars fan, hell a sports fan in Minnesota in general. Their final season was again, normalcy, sure they made the playoffs, but it was another losing season and this was it for them. They lost to Detroit in 7 games, playing their final game in Detroit, losing 1-0 in Overtime. It was also the first time the NHL tested video replay. The legendary Al Schaer final call goes as follows:
In many ways the Stars were what the NHL wanted, an experiment in the Southern US, to see if Hockey could work. Dallas, Miami, Tampa were experimental, the NHL wanted to expand into an untapped market, but in doing so alienated fans in Minnesota. They quelled this by announcing “The Twin Cities would get a new expansion team in the near future” the Minnesota Wild.
In the end, the North Stars were unstable for most of their existence, due to horrible ownership. The fans deserved better, but instead got people who didn’t want to spend much, instead. Even in the early years, things weren't good, the merger is what saved them, but in a way also killed them. The fans have every right to still despise Green, but I believe they should despise the Gunds' as well.
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Trip report: Isle Casino, Blackhawk CO

Hit this one today on our way thru. 1pm on a Thursday, one table open $5 min $100 max (I believe this is a table max per state law). Max 10x odds. All tall small on the table. Saw them make em all while we were there, of course when we didn’t have any money in. Good crew, very friendly and helpful. Cocktail service was mediocre but they do have comp booze which is a plus for those of us traveling from the Great Plains. There was one other table, not open, in the isle plus one other in “lady luck” which is another casino attached. Did not find any of the famed $2 min tables, at least at this time. This place is worth a visit. I may try to do a combo biking/casino trip this way later in the year and explore the other casinos in Blackhawk and Central city.
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Wayback Wednesday - The Heist

Since it was first commissioned in 1892, the Stanley Cup has taken on its own mythology. It's been to three continents. It's been beaten, dinged, kicked, thrown and abandoned.
It's been used as a baptismal font, ashtray, doggy dish, an on-stage prop for strippers, a bubble gum bowl, and – of course – a drinking vessel.
It's been left on street corners, left behind on frozen rivers, slept with, pried open by curious players, and found at the bottom of swimming pools.
There are many odd tales to tell about the most recognizable trophy in North American sports, but there's a really weird one I'd like to share with you today.
March 31, 1962 – dateline, Chicago. The Montreal Canadiens and the hometown Black Hawks (with a space) are deep into their semifinal playoff series. The Habs, at this point, are nothing short of a dynasty, winning four straight Cups from 1956 to 1960.
The Black Hawks broke that streak the year before, eliminating the Habs on their way to their first Cup since 1938. The Habs and their fans wanted revenge.
The Habs took the first two games of the series before heading south for games three and four. In those days, teams took trains from game to game and included a large entourage with the team on board. Coaches, beat writers, healthy scratches, and even a few lucky fans got to travel with the players.
One of the fellows on the Montreal train was a twenty-something super fan named Ken Kilander. Born and raised in Montreal, Kilander was a hockey player himself, but a lousy one. His boyhood dream of making the Habs dashed, he made a living as a pianist.
He travelled with the team on road trips frequently, hustling money for transportation and hotel rooms by playing the piano near the team's hotel. More often than not, Kilander would be wearing his cherished team jacket – word said he was given it by one of the team's players.
Kilander became loosely known to the players but was mostly known to the team's beat writers. They'd often socialize with Kilander on the train or after a few wobbly pops in a hotel lounge.
On March 31, the night before game three was scheduled, the group gathered in the bar of the team's hotel, the LaSalle, about a mile away from the raucous confines of Chicago Stadium. Kilander overheard one of the loose-lipped scribes saying that league officials had arranged for the Stanley Cup to be publicly displayed in the Stadium's lobby.
The drinks continued to flow until Kilander piped up. His exact words were lost to history and drowned out by whiskey years ago, but he said something like this:
“What would you all do if I found a way to get the Cup to the boys?”
The writers raised an eyebrow. After a one-beat pause, some laughed. One reporter, knowing the game would be played on April Fools' Day, said if Kilander could find a way to get the Cup to the hotel, he'd take a photo and send it back to his paper for publication.
Another reporter egged him on. Others said it would cause huge trouble, but it'd still be a good laugh. Apparently, one of them made Kilander a bet, that the pianist would earn $400 if he got the Cup to the hotel.
Don't make bets when you're drinking, people. Things get weird when you do. Things would get weirder the next day.
Game three started the next night just as many others had at the Stadium. Kilander made his way through the turnstiles and, to his amazement, saw that one of the writers was right. Sitting in a glass display case in the lobby, on a small wooden stand, was the Stanley Cup.
Kilander pondered it for a short while before heading to his seat.
For a hardcore Habs fan, game three wasn't a good night. Two quick goals made it 2-0 Chicago before the first period ended. By the time forty minutes had been played, it was 3-0 Black Hawks..
Distraught, Kilander left his seat and wandered down to the arena lobby. “My Habs were getting clobbered,” he said later. “I couldn't take any more of that.”
He walked through the now-empty lobby and saw the Cup, still standing on its wooden plinth near the rink's exit onto Madison Street. A small padlock held the case closed.
Kilander remembered the drunken wager the writer offered him the night before.
He knew what he had to do.
It's not really known how he did it – either he smashed the display case, picked or forced the lock open, or just so happened to find the lock already undone. The method isn't all that relevant – the end result certainly is.
Kilander wound up with the case open and the Stanley Cup right in front of him. No sirens or alarms went off. No security saw him. It was just the fan and the holy grail.
“I couldn't resist reaching in and taking the Cup in my arms. The Hawks were about to win, and who knew when I'd ever see it again,” he'd say years later.
Kilander held the Cup, then grabbed it fully, took it out of the display case, and beat feet out of there. If the Habs couldn't bring home the Cup, he'd damn well do it for them.
He made a quick dash for the exit, first trying to cover the Cup with his prized jacket. Realizing the Cup was too big to hide, he hoped he could sneak out the side exit and get onto the street, where it would be a fairly short walk to the team's hotel.
Kilander was steps away from the exit when he heard a voice behind him. “Hey,” it said. Sounded like some kid. Kilander turned his head back. It was a kid – a sixteen-year-old arena usher named Roy Perrell. Perrell had noticed the guy with the Habs jacket walking sneakily out of the building with hockey's most prized trophy and, shockingly enough, thought he probably shouldn't be doing that.
Perrell approached Kilander and asked him again, “What are you doing?”
Kilander thought of a quick reply; “I'm taking the Cup back to Montreal – where it belongs.”
Impressed with his quick line, Kilander kept walking. He only got a few more steps in before hearing another voice – this one, deeper than the last.
Chicago police sergeant Jerry Cortapessi was on the scene. Cortapessi asked the same question Perrell asked Kilander. He got the same response. It went over about as well as you'd expect – dead, hostile silence.
Kilander thought his goose was cooked but then remembered the bet - $450 if he could get the Cup to the hotel. Kilander mentioned the bet to the two and offered them both a substantial cut if they let him walk.
Cortapessi wasn't impressed. “Only if you're Rocket Richard and I'm the Tooth Fairy,” he reportedly said before grabbing the Cup from Kilander and handcuffing him.
So much for the hotel – Kilander would be sleeping in the hoosegow instead.
The next day, Kilander was taken to Chicago municipal court, still wearing his jacket. The Black Hawks, realizing this was all an ill-conceived joke – or maybe still satisfied after beating the Habs 4-0 - didn't press charges against Kilander.
Kilander told the judge he wasn't actually going to bring the Cup back to Canada, just to the hotel instead. The plan afterwards – what would he do with the Cup, if he'd return it, etc. - was kind of hazy after that.
He told the judge about the bet and that he offered the two arresting parties, Perrel and Cortapessi, a cut of his earnings if they let him walk.
That smells an awful lot like bribery, but the judge said the situation differently. Kilander was given a charge of disorderly conduct and was ordered to pay a $10 fine and court costs.
Just to cover his bases, the judge also told Kilander he had to promise he would never try to steal the Stanley Cup again. “I cross my heart and hope to die, I'll never do it again!” he said.
"He said to me, "You can go back to the Stadium tomorrow night and cheer all you want for your Canadiens, but the Cup stays here unless the Black Hawks lose, which I doubt very much they will," said Kilander years later.
Kilander did at least succeed in one way – the papers back home ate his story up. His attempted theft made the sports pages in every paper across North America. Habs coach Toe Blake weighed in, saying, “We want the Cup, sure! But we want to win it, not steal it.”
After game four, another Habs loss, Chicago police suggested firmly that Kilander catch the next train home. He did.
The Habs would lose that series in six games, blowing their shot and an almost-unprecedented dynasty. The Hawks didn't fare much better, losing to Toronto to create that ever-rarest of hockey flukes – a Cup for the Maple Leafs.
Kilander kept following the Habs for years after the attempted heist. He moved to Atlantic City for a while and tinkled the ivories in the city's casino haunts, later becoming – ironically enough – a security officer on the city's Boardwalk. He still found ways to make it to as many Habs games as he could.
Kilander was banned from seeing Rangers games in Madison Square Garden after the incident – even though the hapless Rangers had no reason to ever worry about the Cup ever being in their home rink. Nonetheless, Kilander met with Ranger GM Muzz Patrick to try and clear his name.
Patrick himself had a weird history with the Cup. When his father Lester had the Cup in his possession in the 1920's, Muzz and his brother both scratched their names into it with bent nails. Later, when he won it with the Rangers in 1940, Muzz and his teammates reportedly peed directly into the trophy's bowl, in what can only be described as the weirdest office team-building exercise in history.
Nobody really knows what happened in the conversation between the two, but between sharing stories of hockey games past and a short performance on piano by Kilander, Patrick relented and allowed him back in.
The Kilander fiasco had one long-lasting effect on the Stanley Cup. Ever since Kilander broke into the case, the Cup has been guarded like royalty, with security and police around it at almost all times and a pair of stewards always close at hand.
Part of the reason they're there is to keep the trophy looking good and shiny, to ensure the person holding it doesn't end up hoisting a rusty, bent bucket.
I think we can tell what another reason is – to keep the craziest fans around, the Ken Kilanders of the world, from trying to steal it.
If you want to read more about the weird, forgotten or amazing bits of hockey history, visit our subreddit at /wayback_wednesday. You'll find dozens of articles just like this one.
We'll be back soon with another article. If you have any ideas or information for later Wayback Wednesday posts, please don't hesitate to message me or comment below. I'm never too busy to answer questions about these.
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[Table] I am a native american social worker working on a USA Indian Reservation. AMA

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Do you have any thoughts on Indian casinos and whether they are beneficial or detrimental to a reservation community? I think they are and can be both. With many tribes, the casino affords them the ability to operate as a functional soveriegn society. This tribe has its own school, clinic, tribal court, elder housing, tribal housing program, etc because the casino money pays for most of it. The casino pays my salary. The per capita payments are another thing...some people use the payments responsibly and still work and make themselves useful members of the community, others take it as their pass to stay at home and do nothing. It's a huge temptation and when you don't have to work...you get bored. When you get bored in a small town where there's nothing to do you find illicit drugs to keep you entertained.
Ojibwe huh? Boozhoo nijii! Thanks for doing this ama ;) Boozhoo niij! Miigwech giin gaye :)
On your reservation, is there a stigma for people who "act white?" It seems like many groups have terms and attitudes towards members of the group who embrace certain so-called "majority" characteristics. Absolutely. Our term is "Apple"...red on the outside, white on the inside. My own husband faced this quite a bit as he is very dark skinned but did not have a reservation accent, lived in town, did not follow spiritual traditions, and decided to go to college. There's a huge stigma attached to going to college because you're "going to learn the white man's ways" and are "leaving your people behind." It's sad, because what would move society forward faster than educated natives coming home and working for their people?
Do you see much classism the tribe? I used to live in the Northwest and talked to a few people who grew up on reservations who had an intense dislike for people in the tribe who made it big, usually by securing upper management positions at the casino. Oh yeah, jealousy is a huge cultural issue for us. I get judged for my education because it was assumed I "think I know everything."
:(. Are you working to reverse this thinking? What percentage of high schoolers on your reservation go to a 4 year college? Do the high schools have programs encouraging going to a 4 year? I am personally working to reverse it because an education has afforded me so much for my life. the high schools here do not have such a program. Some tribes have programs to pay for college education...my tribe, the Oneida, do.
Where are you currently working? We are from the same tribe. :) This has been my favorite AMA thus far! Also, what do you know about Boys and Girls Clubs on native land? Are they available where you are, and if so, are they functioning and beneficial? Yep! We have them on this rez and the kids really enjoy them. I wish they had something like it for older children who are getting picked up by gangs.
So, you are Oneida but you work on an Ojibwa reservation? Have you ever had any problem with that? Not really. They're just happy to see a Native person doing my job as opposed to someone non-native.
What's the best success story that you've had so far? Do you see things looking up, generally? The best success story so far is a woman who was addicted to heroin and abused her children while high. After having her children removed she was very defiant towards social services, in denial about what she'd done. When she went to treatment she sat me down and thanked me for removing her children. She said that that was the kick in the butt she needed to realize she had a problem. She had missed out on so much of her children's lives and had caused them to worry and grow up too fast...she wanted to make it up to them. That really brightened my spirits...and she's still doing well today.
how are the kids doing? They're doing okay. They are in separate placements and so don't see each other as much as they used to. The eldest child is the one who is dealing with the most...
Whats the worse case you had to deal with as a social worker in the reservation? A case where the mother has fetal alcohol syndrome and the father has a traumatic brain injury. Their kids were so medically neglected that their skin condition had caused their eyes to be swollen shut, they had open bleeding sores, and were in so much pain they couldn't move.
That's horrible. How functional was the mother and father? Could they even take care of themselves? They were functional, but just didn't understand how serious the problem was...they just felt that the symptoms of what was going on was just something they kids had to live with.
Plus they were using meth as well as their mental status being not the greatest...so they were more consumed with finding their drug than helping their children.
:(. What are your resources as a social worker to help the children and parents in that case? Does the BIA manage this or Child Protective Services? Well, we placed the children with their uncle and aunt who are more able to care for the children and have several children of their own. The children also have a Band public health nurse visit them weekly. The band has their own resources and we also use the resources of the county. We don't work with the BIA. We work with the different surrounding county governments.
What in god's name happened to those poor children?? Yes they're much happier now and since they are getting the medical attention they need their skin has cleared up and they are back in school.
Edit: I see that they were placed with their Aunt and Uncle. Are the happy? Healthy?? Well-adjusted??? We don't usually do parental rights terminations in our organization but in this case the court is considering it just because the parents may literally be incapable of caring for their children.
At a previous job, I had the Navajo as a customer. Talking with them, they felt that a lot of problems were the result of corruption within the tribal leadership. Are you seeing any of that? Oh gosh yes. Last year the tribal chairwoman was re-elected despite being under investigation for money laundering and fraud. There's a lot of nepotism in tribal affairs...it's all about who you know and not your education or reliability.
Hey there, thank you for this AMA. Here i go: what tribe do you originate from? (hope i'm not making an offensive question, if i am please diregard) Is the american society polarized with native americans as much as it seems to be with other minorities or races? and finally do you feel that the native american heritage & cultural history has its rightful place in the american educational system? I am enrolled with the Oneida tribe of Wisconsin and am a descendant of the Ojibwe tribe. I moreso follow Ojibwe traditions as my dad was raised by his Ojibwe mother and grandmother.
Society does treat us differently. When I was in highschool I faced a lot of racism. One kid actually tried to light me on fire, stating my race as his reason, and when we told the principal he said "maybe he just has feelings for you he doesn't know how to express." Basically, boys will be boys. It's even worse around communities near reservations...in Green Bay near my Oneida rez there are places that won't serve Indians. The local government will try to block development projects that will bring more income to tribes. There's a lot of jealousy surrounding tribal per capita payments...though believe me a lot of us are not getting rich. I get a thousand a year from my tribe, and my husband gets a hundred and fifty.
I don't think that Native American history is explored well. I feel that places should focus on local tribes and talk about tribes and bands as individuals and not homogenize us. Plus the way they teach the history of Columbus is fucking ridiculous. He threw babies to dogs as punishment for not bringing him gold...he doesn't deserve a holiday.
What is your favorite or most interesting part of Ojibwe culture? What traditions do they still hold? My favorite part is the language. I used to teach Ojibwe language at the high school level and I am proficient in it. I also love the spirituality and ceremonies. We actually hold a lot of our traditions still, especially our spirituality. We had to adapt them to times because our spirituality was actually illegal until the late 70's so we still kind of do everything in secret, but it's still a big part of our lives. Plus our cooking and general way of life, customs, social nuances, they're all around.
Can you explain how it was illegal? Wouldn't freedom of religion protect you? You would think so, but it was actually specifically outlawed until 1978. Here is information on the American Indian Religious Freedom Act that finally made it legal.
Thanks for the answer. What kind of food is considered traditional? What's your favorite dish? Berries are considered traditional but especially blue berries and strawberries. Venison, Moose, wild rice. My favorite is wild rice hot dish.
If you would have said "fry bread" I was going to stop reading this AMA. Lol too many people think it's a traditional food. It's more like soul food. We created it from commodity rations, it was not traditional.
How bad is the morale and alcoholism in the tribe you work with? I would say morale is pretty low...parents generally feel that living on the rez means a shitty life and you have to accept that. A lot of people, when they want to get sober, choose to move off of the rez entirely which I don't fault them for.
Alcoholism is here, but it's actually not the biggest substance abuse problem. Right now heroin is really making a comeback on this rez, and the second most popular drug is pills.
What's your educational and professional background? I actually have a bachelors degree in teaching and ojibwe language and culture. This rez does not require a social services background, they train us for us after being hired.
What inspired you to become a social worker? I had worked with people in these type of situations before as a domestic violence advocate. I fell in love with helping people like that working that job through college. It just felt more real than teaching, like I was actually making a difference (though believe me, teaching makes a difference too). I realized I had a knack for it and it's not a job a lot of people can do and so I sought it out.
lastly: thanks for what you do, regardless of the population you work with. Thanks. It's a pretty thankless job so it's nice to be appreciated :).
Wow, you sound like such a good-hearted person! My deepest respects. If I may ask, where did you get a bachelor's in Ojibwe language/culture? The College of St. Scholastica in Duluth, MN. It's called the Native Teacher Training Program now.
If someone wanted to do community service on a reservation, would that be frowned upon - especially if they were white? What would be the best way to volunteer? I don't think it would be frowned upon but you may receive a different reception than a fellow native person would. There are a lot of white people who come into our community with a savior complex...saving the poor indians from themselves. But if the goal is to work ALONGSIDE natives we will accept a white person. We have white social workers and supervisors. I have an easier time being native than they do, but they are still accepted and the families still work with them. There are different programs on different reservations...the only one I can think of here is boys and girls club and they always love volunteers...they have white staff as well. You just have to see what opportunities the rez provides.
What do you feel the USA should do at the state/federal level to improve situations on reservations? Improving communication with the tribes. They still pass laws regarding us without asking for our input, and for a long time there was no leader of the Bureau of Indian Affairs (I believe through the entire Bush II presidency). I don't think money is the answer...a lot of people seem to think Indians just want free money or reparations.
Really the reservations need to act to improve their own way of life. The damage has been done by the government in the past and we need to act as a sovereign nation and help ourselves.
So, hypothetically speaking, I am a government agency that has grant money to give Indian Tribes. Most tribes are eligible to receive this funding, however, so few apply (it's not usually a lot of money, but it is money). How do we go about getting the word out and communicating that this money exists for them to use? Moccasin telegraph is best. That's our way of saying word-of-mouth lol. You have to actually go to the communities to talk to people...they tend to think something doesn't exist or people don't care unless they can address them face-to-face.
You mentioned that cooking is one of your favorite parts of your culture. What are some of your favorite traditional dishes? I LOVE Moose. Moose anything. Moose hot dish, moose burgers, moose steak. Moose is so lean and flavorful.
I also like frybread. Everyone cooks it so differently and it carries so much tradition in each family. However it's not a traditional food...it's a food that came about because of commodities. Commodities gave us lard and flour and we made the best of it.
Have you ever thought that the reservations have served their purpose and are no longer necessary? No. I think reservations are great because they still allow us some sovereignty and the ability to build our own societies in the way we feel is necessary and relevant to our culture. Unfortunately, reservations are full of poor people and like any place predominantly inhabited by poor people (ghettos, trailer parks) there is a lot of crime and drug use in order to "survive." I still feel that it's a great thing, however, that I can go to a doctor that will respect western medicine and medicine people. That my child can go to school and learn English and their tribal language.
Do the majority of people in the community hold traditional Ojibwe spiritual beliefs and what is the role of religion/spirituality, generally, on the reservation where you work? I would say the majority have some form of traditional belief but like any spirituality it varies from person to person. We try to integrate it into our social work if it is what appeals to the family...we've used traditional healers to work with those struggling with substance abuse, to heal victims of sexual and physical abuse, and to mediate family arguments. I think most government facilities here try to use spirituality. They do a weekly prayer and drum circle at the tribal school, they open each official government meeting with sage and a prayer...we integrate it as much as possible.
I live on a native reserve in Canada, my reserve has about 800ppl. We have very few "traditional" reserve problems, we have 95% employment rate, very little (if any) violence, drug, alcohol, or poverty issues. That I hear about from other reserves (epically reserves in USA). Are the stories I hear true or false? It depends on the reservation, but I'd say generally the reservations do have a lot of crime and drug use. My Oneida reservation doesn't have AS MUCH trouble with it as it is the only metropolitan reservation in the country AND they pay for college so there is a lot of opportunity for work and education. Here more people are poor and unfortunately with poverty comes the need for crime to pay the bills and the desire for drugs to numb the pain.
I worked for several years in the Megan's law program in California and was shocked to find out that due to the sovereignty of Native American tribes a lot if not most of the people accused or found guilty of rape or molestation on the reservation often go free or are not prosecuted at all. I also heard that in most cases they even end up living in the same neighbohood as their vicitms. First, is this true? And second, if it is, is there any way to prevent or solve this issue when the reservations sovereignty comes into play, leaving any outside law enforcement unable to assist in helping in such cases? I haven't found that to be true here in Minnesota...they are prosecuted and sent to jail. That's a criminal issue and is handled more by law enforcement and county court. I think this used to be more true in the past as most crimes against natives were not prosecuted.
This tribe has a way of dealing with it...banishment. Some tribes still use banishment as a punishment and do not allow perpetrators back onto the reservation. Tribal police will actually escort them off if they find them to be in the area.
Do you notice any sort of resentment towards the government from the locals? We are currently learning about indian history and how past aggressions have lasting impressions so I'm wondering if you still see people angry about that or is that all old news by now? People are still angry about it but it's not generally something we discuss. I do, because I have to interact with state and federal government depending on the kind of case I have to investigate. I still see the state trying to infringe on our sovereign tribal rights because they believe they can do it better. I think it mostly manifests in who families are more willing to work with. Families are always more open to working with me as a tribal social worker than with county officials.
Do you have any insights into what the future holds for Natives? I work at a hospital close to a few reservations and I agree that the older generation still seems kind of resentful but the younger kids don't seem to be as much (or maybe just not yet), is a change on the horizon? I can really only refer to the seventh generation prophecy among the Ojibwe people...that the seventh generation will bring about change and cultural revitalization. That's this generation so here's hoping.
Canadian here, we have a unique, but similar, situation here with our aboriginal population. What do you think the real solution is for problems on reservations? In Canada there is a lot of resentment of aboriginals and many people say they are "lazy, freeloaders who want free money". Many people here believe we should stop sending "blank cheques" to reservations and to put money into rehab centers, schools, etc. Critics of this say it is neo-colonialism. The aboriginal writer, Cardinal, believes things need to be solved internally by aboriginals and the government should provide money with no strings attached. A lot of Canadians don't think they should have to pay for past injustices, especially since we have such a large migrant population. What's your view/why? TL;DR What's the best solution for problems in aboriginal populations? I think the real solution is for people to take more responsibility for our future. I think the government isn't as active in their efforts to destroy the native population, now they are indifferent (which can be a killer on its own). The government doesn't give a shit about us, so we need to stop blaming them for our current problems. We were dealt a bad hand...we have a history full of problems that has trickled down to current generations, but at this point no amount of money or government assistance is going to make that better. Tribes need to be responsible for their own people and need to create programs to help employ and educate their citizens.
What is the status of family law (e.g. paternity, guardianships, divorce, etc.) on the reservations? It is different for each reservation. On Oneida they actually just got family court so they will do guardianships and child protection in tribal court for the first time. On the rez in which I work there is guardianship and child protection court already in place. For paternity, divorce, and criminal it is generally done in county court but it really depends on the reservation and their ability to provide that for their people or their relationship with state government.
Why do they prefer to be called American Indians now, since its based on such a silly historical mistake? I think because we've been identified with the term "indian" for so long...but actually you'd have to ask each individual what they prefer. Personally I prefer the term first nations, but mostly to be identified by the tribes I specifically draw heritage from. The latter is true for most people, we just don't expect that from outsiders.
How do you feel about sports teams with "Indians" or other similar names. I grew up at a school who had the Indians as our school symbol and we always took a lot of pride in learning a lot about NA culture in our school. We also live in an area where a lot of Mississippian Indians were basically absorbed into "white" culture. Now that a lot of schools are changing symbols I kind of feel like we are forgetting about part of our shared history. What's your take on this? I think it depends on the representation. It sounds like your school had a more respectful way of dealing with it. The Redskins, however, is a term that is racially offensive. It comes from when bounty hunters used to turn in native skins to the government for their pay as transporting the bodies was more heavy and expensive. However, the fighting Sioux is okay with me because the Sioux people themselves are in favor of it.
My girlfriend once did some work with the Seminole Tribe. She said most of the people were obese and would wear cheap Wal Mart clothing, but had private jets and would spend ridiculous amounts of cash on the dumbest shit. Is obesity a problem with many other tribes? What's the usual diet for those living on a reservation? Are most people in the tribe wealthy, or is it structured similar to the outside, i.e. a few rich at the top and many people far below? Obesity is a problem as is diabetes. Our bodies were not designed to digest the food that Europeans are. The usual diet on a rez is the diet of a poor person: cheap food loaded with preservatives and high in fat. In this tribe I'd say the majority are still poor. Generally people believe that because a tribe has a casino they must be rich, but it depends on the tribe. There are some tribes where their members make hundreds of thousands a month and others like my husband's (Leech Lake) where they get 125 dollars a year.
Do you think the social situation in the reservations is worsening or getting better, and do you have examples of social dramas? That's a question with a complex answer. Like any society you have some people moving forward and others doing the opposite. I think there are more opportunities for people on reservations these days but the crime and drug problems remain. Could you explain what you mean by social drama?
I hope I don't sound too much of a "disaster tourist", but I was wondering if there are generation gaps/class distinction/internal troubles that we don't hear of too often. In short, is there unity or division among the members of the Ojibwe, and why do you think that is. And could you expand on the crime and drug problems? What drugs are used most? Oh absolutely. Elders want the young to be more involved in their culture as they will carry it on into the future, and many native youngsters find them antiquated and find this to not be their responsibility. Young natives actually identify a lot with urban african american culture and listen to rap and dress in that style. There are natives who live in nice homes here by the golf course, and indians who live in tribal housing with cockroaches. Jealousy is a big problem with our people...and people who succeed are seen as "white lovers."
There is a lot of gang activity on this rez (and many reservations). Here we have the "native mob" who do sex trafficking but mostly drug trafficking. The big drug here right now is heroin with pills being a close second.
Do the youngsters also hang out with African Americans, or do they only identify with them because of TV culture? Do you think that clinging to traditional values is good, or that "blending in" with modern society is the way to go? How do you think the social problems involving crime and drugs can be dealt with? In some cases they hang out with African Americans, but there is actually a lot of racism towards African Americans, especially with the elders. I'm not sure why, I just know it's there. It's mostly the gang culture and tv culture youngsters associate with.
I think that blending is good to a point as well as the clinging to traditions. The reality is I don't want to go back to living in the woods...I like internet and indoor plumbing...but I don't need to live in the woods to practice my spirituality, speak my language, or learn the traditions. I think we need to accept that we need to decide what our current culture is and not continue to be angry about or mourn the past. Never forget, but forgiving is okay.
I think it is a complex problem that people are trying to answer in a one-note solution. They assume if you close down the drug dealers the problem is over. But really, you need to address the poverty, the depression and the stigma of seeking help for depression, the joblessness, and the cultural stuff like people's tendency to be fatalistic.
How is their government structured, and how does this affect daily life? I ask because I've some acquaintances in the Navajo Nation, which is run by consensus government, so getting projects approved and started can take forever. They have the tribal chairperson and commisioners of different departments (education, finances, etc) and they meet as a board to make decisions. My tribe (the Oneida) have a general tribal council made up of whichever tribal members decided to show up that day (they pay out an incentive) who votes and the majority rules.
What do you think about pushes for traditionalism in a tribe? I live in Arizona, and I've heard speakers lament that kids have lost the old ways (spirituality, customs, language), but restoring them would solve a lot of problems that Native American youth have. Do you think that approach holds promise? Do you find that young people want that traditionalism? I think that having stock in your community helps you to respect it more. Having your own sense of identity makes it so you don't need to seek approval and fellowship from gangs. Learning your language or involving yourself in learning how to do ceremonies occupies you so you don't get into trouble. I think it could help a great deal.
I find that younger people can go either way as far as seeking traditionalism. I'm more exposed as a social worker to the ones who don't (and you can take from that what you will) and so I see more kids who look to gangs and crime.
Is this a problem in your area? If so, what are some of the ways to help these girls and women to gain their independence? How can we raise awareness in younger generations and teach men that it is NOT okay to pay for sex? It is a problem here but it is not as prevalent. I think its so prevalent in Duluth because of the ports. I think what needs to happen is more native communities need to have open and honest dialogue about the problem. Native communities do not want to believe this happens to their girls and will shy away from discussing it.
I am a tribal member with Lac Courte Oreilles and I live off reservation. It has been three generations since my family lived on the reservation, and my generation is the first ones since about 1920 to even engage with our heritage. What advice would you give someone like myself to reengage with my heritage? Firstly, if you have access to an elder or can find access, this is your best bet. Elders are our connection to our past, to our ways, and have a whole lot of history to share. Powwows are a great place to meet elders. Many places also have cultural workshops. I'm not saying the workshop will teach you as much as a member of the tribe, but this is a good place to MEET someone from the tribe. The more community involvement you have the more knowledge will rub off on you.
What are your thoughts on the proposed provisions to the Violence Against Women Act where a federal court can supersede a reservation's council? How prevalent is domestic abuse? Federal court can always supersede tribal law.
Domestic abuse is very prevalent, more prevalent in Native communities than any other. I used to be a domestic violence advocate in Duluth, MN. If you'd like to know more about that please read the "Shattered Hearts Report." It's a really good and heartbreaking inventory of how many native women are affected by rape, sexual assault, and domestic abuse.
Maybe a shallow question but what's your opinion on the use of your heritage as sport mascots? Washington Redskins, Cleveland Indians, Chicago Blackhawks etc. EDIT: Would still like more info on this question... This answer (Link to www.reddit.com didn't clarify much... Any chance you can address teams like the Braves/Blackhawks/Indians? Please see above.
I worked doing humanitarian work on several reservations in Arizona. One not so remote, and one VERY remote. Hilarious part was they hated being called Native Americans, and much prefered to be called Indians. Very sad to see the state of affairs, and I just want to thank you for doing what you do. It breaks my heart that they are in the United States and go nearly unnoticed (not that they don't share in the responsibility for a lot of their own shortcomings). Are you Indian/Native American yourself? I am enrolled Oneida and a descendant of Fond du lac Ojibwe.
I don't have questions, I just want to say THANK YOU for everything you do. I have worked for several domestic violence and community organizations in South Dakota's Sioux reservations and know that the struggles of Native Americans are often overlooked or minimized by stereotyping and racism by the average American. Edit: I do have a question actually. I now live in WI and would be interested in getting involved in Native culture activism and non-profit programs. My educational background is in sociology and transitioning families. Do you know of any good programs in WI or MN that are looking for interns/volunteers or any educational resources for young people interested in getting involved in these areas? I know the American Indian Community Housing Organization in Duluth, MN is looking for people and they have a lot of different positions and programs. Mending the Sacred Hoop in Duluth might need people as well. If not, they could point you in the right direction.
Can you provide proof? I'd be more than willing to if you have any ideas as to how.
What do you think of Red Lake's new skatepark? Hahah I have not been to Red Lake.
Have you had any dealings with Native Americans from Canada? From my few spots of observations while visiting Canada, a lot of Canadians are highly prejudiced against Native Americans. One of my weh-ehs (the Ojibwe version of a godparent) is from Rainy River reservation in Ontario. He's really my only connection to Natives from Canada. I don't know a lot about their communities or struggles.
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